Thanks so much once again Rob, this is a great explanation of something we see in every game, but often appears different each time we see it, so good to at least know how the framework and thinking behind advantage works..
Hi Rob (from Simon), with the 5m off-side line from scrums, who monitors the off-side of the Attacking team? Asking as I have seen on a couple of occasions the defending team penalised for being within the 5m BUT for reacting to the attacking team coming within the 5m before the ball seems to be out of the scrum. Thanks.
Good to hear from you, and you've asked an excellent question, so much so, it deserves a separate "Ask The Ref". If you're happy to wait, we can get to this one shortly.
Perhaps the same bloke who monitors the 10m at the lineout? That is a tough one with a lot of moving parts to watch though. Like refereeing offside in football, your eyes on the 10m line, the ball passing the 15m line and the rear feet going over the line of touch. Maybe next time Rob? Then I can ask you about the amount of attention to lineout tries.
There is some complexity in the answer, so we're going to give the question the respect it deserves and let it have its own space. If you want to frame an accompanying question around lineout tries, please feel free to lob it in here, and we'll put it into the mix.
Story from way back involving Irish prop Phil O'Callaghan. The referee blows his whistle and says sternly "O'Callaghan, your'e boring ! To which Phil replies " Sir, I don't find you a very interesting personality either"
Players knowing the laws. In the world of one percenters I cannot fathom why each SRP squad member is not required to hold a referee ticket. There are still several incidences a season of silly penalties where the player still wants to argue the point.
They should also be required to referee games. Obviously a marketing and promotion exercise but I would have thought players would learn a few things looking at the game from a completely different perspective.
I even wonder how many times a season a SS coach wished his players knew the rules?
I know some of the SRP teams do this from time to time, but clearly, not often enough...
As a referee body, we've pushed hard at times to have such players referee junior games, and occasionally it happens, but a more entrenched program would be to everyone's benefit. That said, finding games for them to referee at the appropriate time is also a challenge, so some tension there too.
Thanks so much once again Rob, this is a great explanation of something we see in every game, but often appears different each time we see it, so good to at least know how the framework and thinking behind advantage works..
Hi Rob (from Simon), with the 5m off-side line from scrums, who monitors the off-side of the Attacking team? Asking as I have seen on a couple of occasions the defending team penalised for being within the 5m BUT for reacting to the attacking team coming within the 5m before the ball seems to be out of the scrum. Thanks.
Hi Simon
Good to hear from you, and you've asked an excellent question, so much so, it deserves a separate "Ask The Ref". If you're happy to wait, we can get to this one shortly.
Cheers, Rob.
It's on the list Simon!
Perhaps the same bloke who monitors the 10m at the lineout? That is a tough one with a lot of moving parts to watch though. Like refereeing offside in football, your eyes on the 10m line, the ball passing the 15m line and the rear feet going over the line of touch. Maybe next time Rob? Then I can ask you about the amount of attention to lineout tries.
There is some complexity in the answer, so we're going to give the question the respect it deserves and let it have its own space. If you want to frame an accompanying question around lineout tries, please feel free to lob it in here, and we'll put it into the mix.
Thanks Rob. Very interesting reading.
Story from way back involving Irish prop Phil O'Callaghan. The referee blows his whistle and says sternly "O'Callaghan, your'e boring ! To which Phil replies " Sir, I don't find you a very interesting personality either"
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Further proof, should it be needed, that the best chirp happens at scrums.
Thanks for the share Mzilikazi - love it.
Players knowing the laws. In the world of one percenters I cannot fathom why each SRP squad member is not required to hold a referee ticket. There are still several incidences a season of silly penalties where the player still wants to argue the point.
They should also be required to referee games. Obviously a marketing and promotion exercise but I would have thought players would learn a few things looking at the game from a completely different perspective.
I even wonder how many times a season a SS coach wished his players knew the rules?
I know some of the SRP teams do this from time to time, but clearly, not often enough...
As a referee body, we've pushed hard at times to have such players referee junior games, and occasionally it happens, but a more entrenched program would be to everyone's benefit. That said, finding games for them to referee at the appropriate time is also a challenge, so some tension there too.